Attendees
[ ] John Mertic (Linux Foundation)
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[x] Deke Kincaid (Digital Domain)
Agenda
- Welcome/Intros
- WG chair not present?
- There was a schedule conflict, but the meeting didn’t get moved.
- Calendar issues form some folks.
- Future meetings should be advertised on the mailing list and/or Slack?
- Other ASWF WG meeting earlier today had similar problems.
- Scope of Working Group
- Aiming to create a proposal to ASWF
- Question: Is this WG aiming for just current ASWF project-related assets, or something larger than this? For example, challenging scenes to render.
- Homework followup:
- Does your company have assets that would be useful to share?
- Disney Animation findings (via Rob Bredow & Nick Cannon)
- Relaying message from Nick Cannon
- Getting permission for the Moana Island project was actually easier than expected. Disney’s openness for this could set a positive precedent.
- Took a long time to get approval, but actual legal work was quick.
- Biggest cost was in labor involved in transforming the data into an open format. OBJ - For example, USD version of Moana Island is still in progress.
- Hosting cost for large data sets was non-trivial, but not super expensive (just needs to be budgeted)
- Licensing questions: will the content be misused in a way the creators/owners are uncomfortable with?
- Cannot use Disney trademarks, cannot misrepresent derivatives as coming from Disney
- Short paper about the challenges: https://www.disneyanimation.com/publications/?drawer=/publications/the-challenges-of-releasing-the-moana-island-scene/
- OpenTimelineIO findings so far (JT + Josh)
- JT Nelson has collected open film content here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kefZpDT98-TSWlEN9X3IdLJGNbq0F4w-kKilyw2jkg/edit
- We have found the source assets, and final footage for several open films, but we have not yet found the actual editorial timeline for any of these yet.
- Licenses?
- Hard to get “real production” assets.
- Moana Island license allows for “research and software development” - we would want more permissive allowances for presentations, demos, etc.
- Do we know stories/use cases where terms were too restrictive?
- Some content out there is published without a clearly identified license. For example, these video clips and source assets say “Creative Commons” but without specifying which CC license: https://www.beeple-crap.com/vjloops
- Desired uses:
- Research
- Software Development
- Performance Testing
- Correctness Testing
- Presentations & Demonstrations
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